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[Events] Notes about my presentation at the Alchimie 4 showLink
Posted on 29-Sep-2004 10:40 GMT by Stéphane Guillard428 comments (307k)
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The html pages I made available was only a starter slideshow for my presentation. Here are a few words about what I shown, and what I said.

Hi Gentlemen,

The html pages which are available at my site are just an introduction slideshow that I presented as a starter, it does not relate what I shown and said afterwards. Please find below a couple of notes about my presentation at Alchimie show.

Here is a quick summary of the presentation I did :

- I booted with boot delays set to 1 second for UBoot and for SLB (second level booter), thus less than 20 seconds after power on, we were with a fully loaded Workbench with Amidock.

- I started with the small html slideshow, presented on IBrowse. You can find those pages at the URL above. IBrowse loaded in 2 seconds with its About: page fully displayed. Browsing through the pages of the slideshow was instantaneous.

- While we were at it, I browsed the OS4 install guide, also as fast as can be, must say I also find this responsiveness impressive myself :)

Then I demoed as many things as I had time to during the 2 hours I had. Everything worked, fast & stable, and was smooth and impressed. I showed mainly:

- All os4 system, tools, utilities, prefs & stuff

- MUI, IBrowse, Amitradecenter

- Yam, SimpleMail

- ClassAction (M. Elsner's file manager)

- MakeCD

- MooVid running a DivX

- DVPlayer running an mpeg2

- AudioEvolution 4 with the demo project, cursors auto moving smoothly, the playback was smooth also, with mostly no CPU usage.

- AmiPDF with the AE4 manual and another heavy PDF file, very fast

- USB. I plugged a Microsoft IntelliMouse Optical into my USB hub, and we had 2 mice to control the system

- Crisot's slach5 winning demo (got applauses which it deserved)

- chip's rayrace realtime raytracer demo. When the juggler appeared, audience was impressed, but really took measure of what they were watching when I moved the mouse. Wait for the Altivec version !

- FPSE, AmiDog's PS1 emulator, with an oldskool game which ran nicely ('Cotton')

- some other visual toys I had at hand

The demos only grimreaped twice, and I anticipated the grims before they popped up :

- One was native glsokoban / w3d, when I launch it does a base page access (a “null pointer” bug in glsokoban). I didactically shown the disassembly which is available in the grimreaper window, was a store to r4, r4 was null etc. I clicked on continue, and it all went fine & fast.

- One was frying pan 0.3.1, I shown the app, and at one point I said 'now it should grim’ and it did. It still loaded fine though. I quit the app, clicked on reboot and less than 4 secs after, wb was up with amidock. That was the only reboot of the show.

I forgot to show (because of short time):

- Petunia... Almos, sorry, I had prepared something for that (side by side windowed jit & nonjit runs of voxelspace), but i both forgot, and was asked to stop at this point by the party organizers cause it was already 5:30 pm while I was scheduled until 4pm.

- ArtEffect

- USB with MassStorage (ie USB key or digital camera)

At the end, I had many fair questions to which I answered; my feeling is that the audience really appreciated the effort behind what I shown, and was conscious that we are not far away from a releasable 4.0.

Then came the expected question, 'and why doesn’t DMA work ?'

I said 'All what you saw was DMA since the 1st boot'.

I copied a few 100 MB files in a snap, with zero CPU (thanks to Pete Gordon for the clock/CPU docky, helps a lot). Then I switched to PIO, they saw 4 x slower and 80% CPU.

The audience understood that it was indeed DMA, and that was fast, and that was part of the overall smoothness of what I shown.

Then I explained the things below (this is the reference for my statements, please don’t rephrase or extrapolate or invent or whatever):

- IDE UDMA works on VIA and Articia on AmigaOne SE / XE / µA1 MK2 (as I demoed) ...

- ... except when the Ethernet chip goes online and is used.

- the Ethernet chip only triggers the problem, but it is not at all related to it (a test using a PCI Ethernet shows the same behaviour)

- We have made a driver for a Silicon Image 680 PCI IDE UDMA133 controller chip, this does UDMA 133 nicely, including when Ethernet is used at full speed.

- The fact that a PCI IDE controller solution works, shows that the problem is *not* related to Articia, since PCI DMA is *also* handled by the Articia, and that works.

- The full Alchimie show demo was done using UDMA, both from the VIA and from the Si680, without problem (but with Ethernet off, would the Ethernet have been turned online, I would have had to revert the VIA into PIO before).

- Things are currently under more investigation

In the meantime there are 2 options for existing A1 board owners:

- Use the VIA IDE controller in PIO mode when using Ethernet, and UDMA at other times,

- Purchase a faster (UDMA133) Silicon Image 0680 IDE PCI card (from around $20). This is my personally recommended option as the delivered speed is noticeable faster than the on-board VIA controller in UDMA mode.

 Notes about my presentation at the Alchimie 4 show : Comment 343 of 428
Posted by Luca Diana (4.23.12.2) on 01-Oct-2004 15:36:10
In Reply to Comment 313 (Fabio Alemagna):
Time goes by but Fabio Alemagna never grows up. I wonder if you'll ever realize that there's more to life than petty bickering. I'm not too sure you do.

I left the community long time ago because of people like YOU, there's only so much a mature person is willing to put up with.
I'm here just because Mike brought your email to my attention and you can be certain that once I said what I have to say I will not reply, nor read, any of the spoiled-kid-stomping-his-feet-on-the-ground insults you will throw at me. Again, the Amiga community to me is dead.
What was discussed on ACCM was far less important than you think, obviously your conspiracy theorist mania dictates differently. The rest of your claims come from your fear that there's alays someone out there to get you.
And I still don't understand what's this obsession you have with me, it's been what...? 2 years since we stopped talking? Just drop me and get on with your life.

To Christophe Decanini:
Totof, I was never in ACCM when Alan Redhouse joined (did he?), although I did invite him at least twice and he never replied. That's all I remember, as I said, I stopped caring a long time ago and all details are, at best, blurry.

Overall, once again let's give way to sensationalism because that's all the "community" (all 20 of you) wants. Infinite threads over the same old arguments, not even the C64 vs Amstrad or Amiga500 vs Atari ST wars were so boring.

I don't have harsh feelings toward anyone (after all, we all took a side, even those who claim they didn't. Everybody had his beliefs and acted accordingly, it's just human nature. I don't even have bad feelings toward Gabriele Favrin, I might not understand him, but I know he has a big heart), only exception is Bill Buck. He lied and he plotted with malevolent intentions since the beginning and ultimately I hold him responsible for splitting the community and eating resources on both sides just like a cancer, resources that would have made a huge difference in the medium and long terms, but everyone was too busy throwing mud to notice his plan, which ultimately led to the distruction of both sides, sides that could have peacefully coexisted. Ultimately I compare him very much to George Bush.

Go on with your lives guys, let the dream remain a dream before it's too late, there's nothing wrong with it.

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Comment 361Johan Rönnblom01-Oct-2004 18:21:07
Comment 362Fabio Alemagna01-Oct-2004 18:26:22
Comment 363Nicolas DET01-Oct-2004 18:45:24
Comment 364Richard Drummond01-Oct-2004 18:45:27
Comment 365Don Cox01-Oct-2004 19:10:34
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Comment 384CnlPepper02-Oct-2004 00:15:38
Comment 385Christophe Decanini02-Oct-2004 01:08:41
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Comment 389Bernie Meyer02-Oct-2004 06:38:17
Comment 390Anonymous02-Oct-2004 10:35:13
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Comment 413Golem03-Oct-2004 16:32:49
Comment 414Don Cox03-Oct-2004 16:52:08
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Comment 416Christian Kemp03-Oct-2004 16:57:37
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Comment 424Don Cox03-Oct-2004 18:43:36
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Comment 427Seehund04-Oct-2004 00:04:05
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