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Amiga Games and Productivity Applications Will Target Windows CE .NET
Microsoft.com
San Francisco, CA — March 12, 2002 — Amiga, Inc. announced the release and distribution of Amiga applications targeted at the Microsoft Windows CE .NET operating system. The applications will run on any of the range of Windows CE .NET-based devices including handhelds, smart phones, web pads, and set-top boxes.
Amiga has a rich history of gaming and multimedia and has been delivering rich, compelling applications since 1985. The new breed of Amiga applications have been written to run on the entire range of Windows Powered products including PDA’s, Cell Phones, and Set Top Boxes. Amiga provides a middleware portability layer, which allows Amiga applications to be written once and run across a range of Windows Powered devices without change. More than 100 applications will be made available initially and many more are being created by Amiga developers worldwide.
“We are pleased to be able to deliver content that is optimized to run on the Windows CE .NET Platform”, said Bill McEwen President/CEO of Amiga Inc. “Amiga developers are world renowned for their abilities to create amazing multimedia content with a small footprint. This gives us the ability to deliver a robust and exciting experience for even the smallest devices.”
“As the number and variety of small- footprint and mobile Windows Powered devices continues to grow, ISVs want to ensure that their applications are able to run on as many of these different devices as possible,” said Keith White, senior director of marketing for the Embedded and Appliance Platforms Group at Microsoft Corp. “Amiga Anywhere enables application developers to easily take advantage of the rich application and multimedia support in Windows CE .NET to write gaming applications that will run on a broad range of smart Windows Powered devices.”
Amiga for Windows Powered Products is expected to ship in April this year. More information can be found on the Amiga Anywhere web site at http://www.amiga-anywhere.com/.
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Amiga To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE .NET-Based Devices : Comment 51 of 83 | Posted by José (213.58.18.195) on 14-Mar-2002 16:06:58 | In Reply to Comment 47 (A):
"And Amiga are not traitors
just because they have realized they have to choose an alternative route to get
to the goal."
I didn't said they were traitors. I said that if they don't continue with AOS and AmigaOne they would be traitors, because that's not what they been saying.
You all, now have your DE dreams coming true whatever. Now let the true warriors get their reward, given that it is economically possible.
Hmm. Does this gives a good slogan or what?
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Amiga To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE .NET-Based Devices : Comment 52 of 83 | Posted by dammy (24.49.27.212) on 14-Mar-2002 16:56:33 | In Reply to Comment 51 (José):
What does "The Name" Inc have to do with AOS and AmigaONE? H&P own 3.5 and 3.9, HYPEron owns Hyper4OS. AmigaONE isn't own by nor, AFAIK, financed by "The Name" Inc.
Exactly what connections does "The Name" have with the Amiga other then the owners of the Boing logo? Since they are not connected with the OSs nor the hardware in your post, how could they be traitors if they didn't have anything to do with those products in the first place? To be a traitor, they would have had to been apart of the community in the first place. Yeehaw!
Dammy
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Amiga To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE .NET-Based Devices : Comment 54 of 83 | Posted by priest (130.231.12.210) on 14-Mar-2002 17:50:25 | In Reply to Comment 52 (dammy):
So some people say ...
But do you think H&P has the control of the whole OS?
Has Amiga Inc given the legacy to them for free?
I think not, they own most of the OS.
I do not KNOW, but it sounds sensible that they still control a lot of the guts of the AmigaOS. They own the guts of it.
What good have you dammy delivered to the community? Not even HYPE?
Hyperion has delivered plenty of goods and keep on delivering.
Don't you realize how idiotic you look when you promote MorphOS (and AROS) of being more "Amiga" than the "Amiga"OS. No matter what you do, you can not change facts.
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Amiga To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE .NET-Based Devices : Comment 55 of 83 | Posted by Raffaele (62.10.188.97) on 14-Mar-2002 18:00:54 | In Reply to Comment 29 (Steven L. Croucher esq):
This morning Steve said:
>This is great news. Amiga are officially a partner with the industry leader.
>It's not the end as some of you predict, in fact it could be a start on the
>road to recovery for the Amiga name and products.
>Just imagine Amiga software being on the install cd shipped
>with every WinCE device?
>
>Forget teaming with Linux companies and talking of crushing
>"the evil empire," you have to side with the winners
>and the companies who really do have money to invest.
>
>Steve
Hummm... "seat with the winners" this remember me that...
...that a "bald pate" dictator, here in Italy, said the same words in 1940, when France was crushed by the nazis...
"I need a few thousands dead soldiers to seat with the winners at the table of the peace negotiations!"...
Cynical isn't it?
You all know how it all finished then...
Have fun...
Raffaele
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Amiga To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE .NET-Based Devices : Comment 57 of 83 | Posted by dammy (24.49.27.212) on 14-Mar-2002 18:47:50 | In Reply to Comment 54 (priest):
Hello my shrilled apologist for "The Name."
Do I believe H&P control the *entire* OS? No. Did I state that? No. Now I did say WB 3.5 and 3.9, so please learn to read. As for Hyper4OS, how many times do we have to read they have the rights to it and continue to develope it even if "The Name" Inc bites it, yet again. If they didn't have control over Hyper4OS, how could they continue to develope it if "The Name" is no more? Hrm? Remember, the IP is owned by Gateway, "The Name" owns the copyrights to the name and trademarks. Oh, my.
As for HYPEron, we shall see what type of OS developer they truely are. If the post on MooBunny are of any truefulliness of HYPEron's OS coding capabilities, I fear the worst. This is afterall, not a game port.
I have far more hope for AROS/Amithlon/MOS then I do for HYPEron's OS. If you don't like my opinion, go back to your M$ loving "Name Nowhere" wannabe OS.
Dammy
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Amiga To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE .NET-Based Devices : Comment 58 of 83 | Posted by ehaines (206.26.230.19) on 14-Mar-2002 19:08:24 | In Reply to Comment 57 (dammy):
> As for HYPEron, we shall see what type of OS developer they truely are. If the
> post on MooBunny are of any truefulliness of HYPEron's OS coding capabilities,
> I fear the worst. This is afterall, not a game port.
What an idiotic thing to say..."post on MooBunny," give me a break. Have you
ever bothered to actually run any of their stuff? I've run everything they've
released so far, and it works very well, professional and stable, the few bugs
were patched almost immediately. Don't think a game port is something easy
unless the original coders went out of their way to make it portable from
the beginning, which almost none do. Compare the port of Earth 2140, for
example. Not a bad port, but clearly not as polished.
Now I obviously haven't seen the source code so I can't say for sure about
"coding abilities," all I can do is look and the end product, which is what
really counts anyway. Games are terribly complex pieces of code these days,
in fact an OS--in some ways--would be easier to code. Maybe OS4 will turn
out horribly; can't say until it's been done. The actual *evidence* however
suggests it won't. But hey, why bother with real evidence when you can
make some stupid cynical remark based on a stupid cynical MooBunny post?
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Amiga To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE .NET-Based Devices : Comment 61 of 83 | Posted by NihilVor (207.74.110.142) on 14-Mar-2002 19:36:21 | In Reply to Comment 40 (EmGee):
> As I said before, get over it. The new Amiga is the NOT A1, but the AA product.
> I wanted too to return to the Amiga world (I left it in 1996), with a new super Amiga. But it
> isn't gonna happen.
What you say doesn't correspond with what Bill has said. DE/AA is not the future desktop OS--it has too many limitation.
The future OS is PPC Amiga OS. Bill has said this on several occasions. Amiga DE is still a very useful project and a
good money maker for Amiga, and by 5.0 (although they now hint at 4.2), as you state, a version of DE will be out to work on
Amiga.
You keep confusing the function of AmigaDE with a host Desktop OS!
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Amiga To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE .NET-Based Devices : Comment 62 of 83 | Posted by acg (67.227.10.202) on 14-Mar-2002 20:28:43 | I thought the goal was to run Amiga apps on top of any existing
OS.... if so, then this is good news.
If MS likes the concept however, it will buy it, and utilize it
to get itself everywhere also, or they will buy it and shelve it
until they come out with a new repackaged windows,, and then
and then they will control everything...Hardware guys are gonna
have to make things that are "optimized" for MS OS or repackaged
Amiga/TAO stuff....no mass of computer "users" are gonna buy
Amiga DE ...they're gonna buy a windows optimized hardware set to
cover themselves for the basics...and that's it...
One hope would be for AmigaDE to have enough people using its
software and "content" on MS boxes, and THEN come out with a
super duper billion GHz, nanoflop, HDTV+, pda, eyeglass/phone/
computer/etc that runs AmigaDE only. Only after enough people
use AmigaDE stuff elsewhere will they want a machine that is superior enough
to the run of the mill machines to bypass windows....
I'm not sure how this will work for me...I wanted a good cheap,
elegantOS that did video, DTP, graphics, games, etc.and didn't
crash constantly, and I didn't need an army of IS specialists,
and constant reinstallation of stuff, and defragging, and
air coolers, and cheap knock-off parts, etc
Amiga was great for the basically undeveloped time it came out,
we loved it because it was so far ahead of its time, all the stuff
out now is just being played out as long as it can be played out...
Innovation in this field is now DEAD. Just jump on the Windows bandwagon and
dust off the guy in front of you, and don't make waves, hopefully
you can eke out a living if you don't go against MS "theory".
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Amiga To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE .NET-Based Devices : Comment 63 of 83 | Posted by Troels Ersking (80.62.224.221) on 14-Mar-2002 20:29:40 | In Reply to Comment 57 (dammy):
Dammy
Why are you still here.. Just hanging around to be able to say "I told you so" _IF_ things should go wrong for Amiga/Hyperion?
Why don't you go and play with the other 20 Morphos users (RS included) I'm sure they miss you. Or are you one of the "many thousand" Amithlon users, that just can't stand the fact that AmigaOS won't be available for X86..?
I just can't remember if you are pro Morphos or pro Amithlon....Maybe you are just anti Amiga Inc/Hyperion/Eyetech?
Troels Ersking
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Amiga To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE .NET-Based Devices : Comment 65 of 83 | Posted by NihilVor (207.74.110.142) on 14-Mar-2002 21:05:19 | In Reply to Comment 64 (David Scheibler):
Oh, I was responding to a post that stated that the DE/AA was the way of the future (as far as the desktop goes)—which even Amiga doesn’t believe. What you are bringing up is the silent one behind the scenes (Wilde)—the unknown. I can’t argue with that, the unknown is always scary. :) None of this precludes them from developing a desktop OS—it just depends on whether you take them at their word or not, and it is still probably to early to speculate (but speculate we will). Of course, they have just about reached a point where, if they are no longer interested in developing an OS, the charade no longer needs to continue; with MS support and plenty of other options available to them, there is no reason to continue to mention AOne or 4.0 on their site—it (and the potential users) become irrelevant under that strategy. So if they go down an exclusively AA/DE path, expect the Amiga OS stuff to be dropped quickly. Personally, I don’t see why they wouldn’t continue to support both (and even become more involved in the Amiga OS once Hyperium finishes the port—actually this has been suggested).
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Amiga To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE .NET-Based Devices : Comment 68 of 83 | Posted by Alex Klauke (217.229.20.216) on 14-Mar-2002 22:07:32 | In Reply to Comment 64 (David Scheibler):
> So what? Bill doesn't make the decisions but Wilde does.
You did it again. Voicing your opinion as fact. Otherwise point me to a link
where it does state so. AmigaInc. as a whole makes the decisions, McEwen
supported by a board of director's who's chairman Wilde is. Surely he has some
influence, but.. Anyway, there is not a single person making decisions, but
many. And we should not care who if they actually _make_ decisions like this one
to drive their business forward. This is what's needed for the Amiga platform at
large. (Yeah, DE/Anywhere _and_ OS).
---
On an additional note:
The Register has picked the story up:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/24432.html
And they've put it mildly.. ;-)
/cite
"The trick of course will be for Amiga to re-establish itself (in its much revised form) as a mass-market application development platform, and that's most certainly not going to be quite as easy as just making a joint announcement with Microsoft. but all the same, we look forward to next month's comeback announcement with eager anticipation." ®
/cite off
Just what we need. Mainstream press. Maybe not The Register all the time, but
its a start. ;-)
Ciao, Alex
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Amiga To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE .NET-Based Devices : Comment 70 of 83 | Posted by coldfire (166.102.53.31) on 15-Mar-2002 01:23:30 | In Reply to Comment 22 (EmGee):
There is NO future in dot net. Not for anyone but MS. I've watched MS do this crap over and over and over again. Anyone who partners with MS will eventually lose. They will get everyone on board and then absorb or strangle them. Go back and look at the history. Remember how Word got to be the number 1 Word Processor? They limited the information on OS opcodes to their competition in the Office product buisness. The MS programmers had all the opcodes but the others got only a limited set. Guess what WP ran better and faster? That is just one example from dozens. IT is what MS is really good at....shitty code...brilliant buisness.
coldfire
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Amiga To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE .NET-Based Devices : Comment 71 of 83 | Posted by gary_c (63.12.66.15) on 15-Mar-2002 01:52:27 | In Reply to Comment 27 (Robert "RAG" Gustavsson):
"But what is not so good is to release a press release and in that pointing to a non finished web site for more information. Here they loose the attention of the first 25000 visitors or so."
Well, it looks really empty in Opera 6 too, but that's because the dynapi javascript apparent doesn't work with Opera. In Windows98/IE I could see the content (after a LONG download wait), but it's amateurishly done. Well, OK, it looks like it belongs on a cell phone display, so I guess there's some consistency there.
Amiga should use browser detection if they want to show their stuff to every visitor, or else use javascript, etc. that really is cross-platform. In the meantime, amiga-anywhere.com, ironically, badly represents Amiga's desire to be a multiplatform content provider.
-- gary_c
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Amiga To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE .NET-Based Devices : Comment 73 of 83 | Posted by NihilVor (65.59.38.70) on 15-Mar-2002 03:45:34 | In Reply to Comment 72 (Hooligan/DCS):
I understand your humor (I think), but I do wonder why people tend to overstate the announcment. Obviously this is not a real a "corporate partnership" or a "buyout", but an agreement that Amiga will supply content to Windows based products (nothing new there). Not every company that makes content for Windows computers is bought out by Microsoft. The Amiga curse is funny, if you believe in such things; of course the industry has gone through a curse or two as a whole.
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Amiga To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE .NET-Based Devices : Comment 74 of 83 | Posted by dammy (24.49.27.212) on 15-Mar-2002 05:55:09 | In Reply to Comment 63 (Troels Ersking):
Hey Trolls,
I'm just hanging about, bring some fresh air in. All those nasty Hype machines blowing smoke; not healthy I tell you! I have little hope for HypeOS4, but since I'm not expected very much, I may yet be happily suprised by even a mediocre OS.
Nope, not one of the MorphOS folks. I wish them luck. Heck, I wish AROS and Amithlon and AmigaXL folks lots of luck to. I'm a UAE user actually, but if the prices fall for AmigaXL CD by the end of the year, I may buy it yet. I do find it interesting though, that even by your sarcastic comments, you doubt "The Name" Inc's claims of having OS5 on X86. And I bet you thought we had nothing in common! Gosh Troll, are we bonding or something? ;>
Dammy
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Amiga To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE .NET-Based Devices : Comment 81 of 83 | Posted by Replicated (195.92.168.172) on 15-Mar-2002 15:54:10 | Ok read the message theres nothing new Amiga Anywhere will run on CE big deal. It will still run on Linux and MacOS and all of the hardware that intent does now. By getting into bed with the industries bigest player is just ensuring Amiga Anywhere gets on as meny machines a possible. If I write something for AA i dont give a rats ass what machine its running on as long as its running thats the whole point of AA. Getting on M$ good side is a goodthing as AA or DE or whatever is as close you can get to .Net as you can without involving lawers and since the state of the market where 90% of machines are running windows and therefore .Net components Amiga needs all the help they can get. M$ cannot stop development for other systems as AA is cross platform. I see this statment as good news I was worried that with .Net M$ had beaten Amiga to the post. But since M$ welcome the amiga then more developers will develop for AA platform knowing that there is a market for their products.
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